I think this hand is pretty straight forward but interested to see how you guys would play it.
There`s another hand here late in a tourney I`ll post later. This was the biggest big blind size I`ve ever played with at 400,000 but anyway. Would you just shove this hand preflop, fold or what. All I know preflop is that the raiser is being a bully and a bit of a donkey. I searched him up afterwards and it turns out he has over $100K in profit I guess from making calls like he did. Anyway what would you do if you were me and if you were pash123 in this hand:
for sure, there are folks who like to contribute, and those who dont. I could do sports again, and even though it was +EV if u add it up, does any one care? need folks here.
Here's a live $1-$3NL hand from Cascades for discussion.
Hero $300 stack button.
utg+2 goes $15, 3 callers, Hero calls $15 with Ac9c, sb/bb, utg calls. So 8 way $15 pre pot $120
Flop 6c,3c,3h SB open pushes all in $65 couple folds, big stack ($1300) snap calls, Cut off (Brown Paul) calls $65- He's mass tilt and in for about -$1500. His stack is about $200
Hero Button ($285 stack) ? Whats the proper play here
I hate chasing a flush or a straight, when the board is paired, and 8 handed, you have way less outs than you think, if you are not already beat....myself personally, with your stack I fold, with a mini stack I call
i think you just call the flop, it depends a bit on how the other players will play their worse flush draws. If you get it in you're very either drawing dead or have 30ish % equity, you can call the flop due to the good pot odds.
unlikely to see a river card for free and also unlikely that noone else has a FD as well. I would say your are either drawing dead or have about 6.5 outs (2c in your hand 2c on board likely 2c in anothers hand 1c for someone with 3xc .5 out credited if they have a combo draw of some sort and you lost 1 more out for a SF)
so 5.5/45 unseen cards ~12% which is 1/8 chance to hit so you need 7/1 on your money. pot has to be 455 to make calling 0ev. Pot is only 315 so i dont think you have enough pot odds to call unless you think that you can hit and extract 140 on the turn or riv (unlikely unless you overflush someone.)
you will also want more money in the pot because of the chance that you are drawing dead. I think its a fold. Its marginal if you call and have outs and terrible if you call and are drawing dead. Also the RIO of hitting and being stacked by a boat. I think if you call you have to stack off if you hit your flush
if ur math and assumptions are correct you really dont think u can get at least another half pot bet out of someone on the turn and river combined? 140 over 2 streets when the pot is already 315 when you call? no one is folding a worse flush or 3x
I folded on flop as didnt want to chase on paired board. Talked to few regs I trust in they said they would fold as well. But being that it was Cascades the sb pushed with 4-5 off no club, big stack called with Ah8h & Paul called with 4-7 off no club. Big ass LOL turn was Kc haha classic, river came 4h and the sb & paul chopped it up. Gota love Cascades
oh geez sorry guys I posted up a hand but later was too embarassed and frustrated and tried deleting it but couldnt figure out how. I didnt expect all these comments lol I`ll find a hand to talk about soon.
